"Subtlety has it's place, sure... Is anyone trying to investigate this place? Is anyone... We have to play along to some degree, I know, but has anyone tried to find out more about what they're keeping from us? How much are people here organized?"

"And I know people can go really far to keep secrets but- When people do that, they have a reason- the truth's always there, you just have to find a way to get to it," Lyra told him stubbornly.

"Besides, this place... It en't the same, but the closest thing I've seen to it-" Lyra took a deep breath, and deliberately let her distress show on her face, "Was a place called Bolvangar, where they kidnapped kids and did experiments on 'em."